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Subject: La femme fiberbrows


Liquid_Ice ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 7:38 AM · edited Tue, 06 February 2024 at 8:15 AM

Hello all,

I made some brows for LA femme but cannot for the life of me find out how to rig the brows. Maybe someone got any ideas?


VedaDalsette ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 10:31 AM · edited Sat, 26 June 2021 at 10:32 AM

Is it a transmap and texture and you're going to use it in Materials Room eyebrows? Or as a P12 layer? Or is it an object? (Just curious. I likely don't have an answer for you.)



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Liquid_Ice ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 10:36 AM

No it's an actual mesh made in zbrush that will conform to the eyebrow area. In Daz studio it's very easy to rig, almost automatic. I poser I have a bit of trouble with it.


VedaDalsette ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 10:54 AM · edited Sat, 26 June 2021 at 10:55 AM

Good luck. I'm sure someone here can help you with that eventually. To me, it sounds like a prop that needs to be parented to the head, but I'm not skilled in rigging.



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Liquid_Ice ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 11:23 AM · edited Sat, 26 June 2021 at 11:25 AM

I know the method but does not work so well. Parenting won't work. Then the brows won't follow the movement of the mesh, ie higher or lower. With parenting the brows just stick to the mesh.


RedPhantom ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 1:05 PM
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I think you'll have to rig it as a head and then add the movement morphs. As far as the face handles, that's beyond me.


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bwldrd ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 1:18 PM

Are they modeled so that they fit where they should on the figure, if so, possibly load the obj into poser, then use la femme as the donor rig in the setup room.

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Liquid_Ice ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 1:22 PM · edited Sat, 26 June 2021 at 1:26 PM

RedPhantom posted at 1:17PM Sat, 26 June 2021 - #4422079

I think you'll have to rig it as a head and then add the movement morphs. As far as the face handles, that's beyond me.

Tried that. You see you have to go into the fitting room and port the morphs over and then in the pose room copy the joint from la femme. And then you can conform. But somehow it doesn't seem to work. I have sent nerd a dm hopefully he can help.


Liquid_Ice ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 2:04 PM

bwldrd posted at 2:03PM Sat, 26 June 2021 - #4422082

Are they modeled so that they fit where they should on the figure, if so, possibly load the obj into poser, then use la femme as the donor rig in the setup room.

Yes they are modeled, fibermesh. I will try the setup room, maybe that will work.


primorge ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 2:08 PM

Have you tried parenting to one of the control chips for the brows? It works, in an initial rudimentary fashion... but it will require additional steps, setting up JCMs and dependencies. This is basically what Nerd will tell you I imagine.


primorge ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 2:13 PM

You'll also have to set up groups in the brows, which could be a major PITA. In fact just one of a list of PITAs in regard to working with La Femme and her expression chips. Everything becomes a JCM. It's helpful to bring some python tools into play... but it can be done with the built in dependency editor.


primorge ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 2:33 PM

In any case. As bwldrd said maybe creating them as conformers is the way to go. Actually the most sensible for a couple of reasons, not least being end user friendliness. There were a few others here trying to do exactly as you are now... With L'Homme. A forum search with fibremesh beard or brows as the search term might save you some headaches and stumbling around. If I remember correctly there was some reasonable success with a fibremesh beard...


Liquid_Ice ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2021 at 3:16 PM

primorge posted at 3:14PM Sat, 26 June 2021 - #4422087

Have you tried parenting to one of the control chips for the brows? It works, in an initial rudimentary fashion... but it will require additional steps, setting up JCMs and dependencies. This is basically what Nerd will tell you I imagine.

Yes, he and I spoke briefly about this. He sorta said the same thing. I wish it was as simple as in Daz studio. I may have a solution. But need to test it first. On dawn and dusk I never had a problem conforming fiberbrows. We will see.


ghostman ( ) posted Sun, 27 June 2021 at 10:17 AM

In the fitting room, only transfer the rig. Not the morphs or anything. Then when back in Pose room save it down to library. Start new scene. Load LF and then the brows and now do the joint zones and transfer the morphs. Save down to library again.

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Liquid_Ice ( ) posted Sun, 27 June 2021 at 10:44 AM

Thank you I will try that when I get home.


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 28 June 2021 at 6:47 AM

Another tip: remember to go into the Body actor of your figure, go into its properties and tick the boxes that say "inherit scales" and etc. SPECIALLY if you want this to work with LH too - I had a 3 day-long nightmare of attempting to rig something like this because I didn't realize that.

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Liquid_Ice ( ) posted Mon, 28 June 2021 at 9:35 AM

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 9:34AM Mon, 28 June 2021 - #4422142

Another tip: remember to go into the Body actor of your figure, go into its properties and tick the boxes that say "inherit scales" and etc. SPECIALLY if you want this to work with LH too - I had a 3 day-long nightmare of attempting to rig something like this because I didn't realize that.

Yes, i found that out too. I have found another sollution for this project. But i will come back with the fiberbrows some time. I had a discovery that you can rig them in Studio and they will conform in Poser. But you have to convert LH/LF for that first.


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