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Subject: Blender to Marvelous Designer to Substance Painter & Daz Workflow Tutorial


Lobo3433 ( ) posted Sun, 24 January 2021 at 10:30 AM · edited Sun, 14 April 2024 at 2:47 PM
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Watched this one last night and in a little over 30 minutes shows a decent work flow of using Daz, Blender, Substance Painter and Marvelous Designer sure the information will be useful to many

Blender to Marvelous Designer to Substance Painter & Daz Workflow Tutorial


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LuxXeon ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2021 at 8:57 PM
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I think that's a great combination, but can also be a very expensive combination if you have to purchase MD and Substance Painter. One good alternative to Marvelous Designer is an addon for Blender called Simply Cloth Pro. It's far less expensive but can really bridge the gap for clothing creation in a great many cases, directly in Blender. I've done some testing with the addon and I can't say enough about how impressed I was with it. Especially when you combine it with the cloth sculpting brushes in the latest versions of Blender, which are obviously free.

For many people, this addon could replace the need to purchase Marvelous Designer to use in combination with Blender and save you perhaps a thousand dollars. The Enterprise Standalone of MD is around $1700. Compared to this addon ($33), that's a huge saving. Granted, MD has many more features, but for people who are looking to create clothing in Blender, this addon in combination with the cloth sculpting features is a worthy competitor.

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Lobo3433 ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 9:07 AM
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I have Simply cloth on my wish list at Blender Market it does look very promising and thanks for sharing the video will watch it since my MD subscription is coming up soon for renewal maybe I will just switch and save a few bucks

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wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 9:40 AM

LOL!! Now that I have officially began production rendering of the first episode of "HALO reclaimer", and After treating myself to Hardops/Boxcutter/Decal machine and the physcial Starlight & Atmosphere Addons (with a 90 percent probability of buying Flip Fluids as well in the coming weeks),

I had promised myself I would stop buying addons?

However when I look at the comparitively low cost of Blender addons that greatly enhance the core feature set and the fact we already get so much in the core application for no money, I say.... why not??

Putting Simply cloth in the "high probability" wish list. ?



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Lobo3433 ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 9:52 AM
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You might also want to look at Cloth Weaver which has Known compatible character libraries include but not limited to: Avastar, Blender, Daz3D, IMVU, Make Human, Manuel Bastioni Lab, Poser which for the price and seriously considering getting since the price has dropped by almost 50%

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Torquinox ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 2:35 PM
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Are there also Substance/quixel-style texture painting upgrades for use within Blender?


Torquinox ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 5:01 PM
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Thanks Lobo! I actually looked for Blender texture and paint plugins. There are several, but I can't parse whether they are the one(s) I want. Will have to look more deeply. Quixel is free now thanks to Epic, and I should really develop a better relationship with my copy of 3D Coat. I have it and it really is sort of awesome. But even turning on either Quixel or 3D Coat immediately makes my system work harder, and neither Daz nor Blender cause such instantaneous heating. They're both quite well-behaved, at least until render time. Not really sure why a program would make everything run harder with nothing loaded. >_>


LuxXeon ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 5:22 PM
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For people on a budget, in addition to the Simply Cloth Pro addon, there's also a Substance Painter type addon for Blender called Smudgr Pro. This addon is only $30, and will allow you to achieve some impressive surface imperfections such as scratches, dust, smudges, edge wear, water droplets, and cavity maps in 4k resolutions. It's very easy to use and works directly inside Blender with basically one or two clicks.

For some people, the combination of Simply Cloth Pro and Smudgr Pro would be an excellent, low-cost alternative to the MD and Substance Painter combination. In these times of financial uncertainty, I think it's an excellent way to get started with creating next-level products. Again, MD and Substance are certainly more powerful overall, but if the goal is to get the most out of your work on a relatively conservative budget, then these addons will do the trick. Definitely worth a look. Unfortunately, I can't link to them from here, but they're easily found with a Google search.

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Torquinox ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 5:37 PM · edited Tue, 26 January 2021 at 5:41 PM
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Thanks Luxxeon! That looks like a great combo to me.


Lobo3433 ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 7:51 PM
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AmorPaint has made some decent strides in its development and it has many similarities to Substance Painter but not the price it is going for 16 euros which is about $20 US

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Torquinox ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 8:02 PM · edited Tue, 26 January 2021 at 8:03 PM
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Armorpaint, yes. I've come across it, too. Looks cool!

I downloaded Open Hardware Monitor and determined that turning on 3D Coat raises my GPU and CPU temps by about 15° C. That's warm but won't melt my computer. I'm going to have at that a bit and see what happens. Also, I found some intense procedural texturing tutorials for adding grunge to a surface. I posted about them here in the tips, tricks & tutorials thread. @4411145 Good stuff for learning about Blender shading nodes ;D


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Lobo3433 ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 8:17 PM
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I haven't had to many spikes in my temp rising on my GPU or CPU I also use Open Hardware Monitor but noticed a bit of a spike using MD today I think manly the simulation since MD uses CPU for simulations and animation I mainly got MD because I was an old customer and got a special deal on the subscription but serious looking at the Cloth tools at Blender market especially the Cloth Weaver since it directly says compatibility with Poser characters which currently my focus of making stuff to set up in Poser Daz is OK but I just cannot get my head around it the UI changes way to often once sort of figure things out and Poser well the UI has stayed consistent if that makes sense

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Torquinox ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2021 at 10:33 PM
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Simulation is brutal! It's hardware intensive. MD seems interesting, but it's nowhere on my list. I understand about UI changes! I don't like them. I never really warmed to Poser - I didn't enjoy the Kai Krause interface. I have an old version, and I'd like to give it another try some time. Daz has a lot to recommend it. I stayed with 4.10, though. The rest of the world is on to 4.12 or higher, but 4.10 is pretty stable and does what I need it to do. I may eventually give the latest version a spin, but no hurry. I'm getting more and more enjoyment out of Blender, and staying in Blender is a big plus.


wolf359 ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2021 at 4:33 AM

I still have an old copy of poser pro 2014 installed on my old Win7 PC.

I left poser many years ago because of the lack of modern animation tools.

Daz studios nonlinear motion clip system, and direct support for Genesis in Iclone, was the main reason I moved to DS and later the Clothing rigging tools made it even more useful when I learned to model my own clothingin C4D.

I stopped upgrading Daz studio at the highly stable version 4.12.086 and have now left the Daz Figure eco-system system entirely since Reallusion introduced the Character creator 3 system for Iclone7 and gleefully dumped Maxon C4D for Blender after the UI redesign of 2.8+

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Lobo3433 ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2021 at 9:28 AM
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I locked out and got Poser at version 3 it was a give away inside a 3D magazine god so many many years ago but bought my first copy at Poser 6 and have been loyal to it since then but Blender is my base everything I want to learn to do is pretty much right inside Blender modeling texturing rendering it is just the best all around package that you can fit into almost any workflow

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LuxXeon ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2021 at 12:43 PM
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wolf359 posted at 12:40PM Wed, 27 January 2021 - #4411165

I still have an old copy of poser pro 2014 installed on my old Win7 PC.

I left poser many years ago because of the lack of modern animation tools.

Daz studios nonlinear motion clip system, and direct support for Genesis in Iclone, was the main reason I moved to DS and later the Clothing rigging tools made it even more useful when I learned to model my own clothingin C4D.

I stopped upgrading Daz studio at the highly stable version 4.12.086 and have now left the Daz Figure eco-system system entirely since Reallusion introduced the Character creator 3 system for Iclone7 and gleefully dumped Maxon C4D for Blender after the UI redesign of 2.8+

MY current pipeline is much more streamlined with Iclone/CC3 as the realtime Character animation resource and Blender for literally everything else.

Wolf, have you looked into the Animation Layers addon for Blender? It's fantastic if you need to tweak motion-captured data in a layer on top of the original animation. You can tweak things non-destructively inside Blender. I've found it invaluable for an animation of all types, but mostly for tweaking humanoid motion capture animation rigs. I think eventually we will have this feature native inside Blender, but for now, this addon is perfect. Very easy to use.

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wolf359 ( ) posted Thu, 28 January 2021 at 6:37 AM

Thanks for the heads up Lux,?

On the Character side of things I try as much as possible to pre-visualize and finalize the Character animation in Iclone because of the realtime perfomance in the Iclone environment.

Even if some major error is discovered with an imported FBX character from CC3 I can literally tab over to Iclone make to correction and export a new FBX motion and append it into the Blender action editor to replace/update the flawed motion.

This motion transfer method is particulary useful for bringing new facial/lipsynch animation from iclone's many options in this area.

that said I will take a look at the animation layer addon as I am always interested in any tools to make general animation editing easier.



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